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Post by [lms]mattPsycho on May 23, 2009 17:33:26 GMT -6
to lazy to read your comment
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Post by [lms]rieper on May 23, 2009 17:48:08 GMT -6
TL;DR:
Communism is bad when you pay for everything your Communist friends do and spend the rest of your money producing weaponry while your country still uses medieval ways of farming.
It's mainly good outside of that though.
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Post by shecter on May 23, 2009 20:02:14 GMT -6
So Rieper, you are saying this:
The guy who works at a grocery market and has been for 3 years should make the same money as a CEO of a company who has been building it for 30 years.
Now take into account the fact that large companies don't exist under communist rule, therefore 30 years of working never gives progress.
What I am defending is the American dream. It promotes effort from people; the promise of money for hard work is appealing. People in a communism are more likely to half-ass their jobs because they know that they make the same money whether they just barely get stuff done or whether they do it well.
That is what makes America so great; we reward the hard working and (until the supreme Liberal reign) did not allow the poor, uneducated lazy people to get the money. That is why 90% of welfare is a waste. When someone receives welfare checks they are less motivated to get a job, just like when a communist receives the same money for doing barely any work, they realize that their system is very easy to beat.
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Post by Creeper on May 24, 2009 1:27:12 GMT -6
Are you mentally retarded shecter?
You clearly did not understand at all the content of what is going on.
we're speaking about how the IDEA of communism is a good one.
please read all of the posts from b4 b4 you comment.
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Post by [lms]mattPsycho on May 24, 2009 10:29:18 GMT -6
i agree with shec to some extent like the working a way harder job and there putting in alot of effort and a person at a gocery store is making the same money
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Post by [lms]rieper on May 24, 2009 12:03:08 GMT -6
I'll post a complete rebuttal when I have more time btw.
But just let me start by saying that working in a grocery store isn't necessarily harder than being the CEO of a company. Imagine this, some guy who was born in a very poor country of family, goes to public schools and then starts to work in a grocery store cause it's the only job he can get due to not having a higher education. He can't go get this education, because his parents can't afford it and he's just above average intelligent, plus his dad just died and he has to support his mother and 2 sisters by working in that store. He works 7 days a week and from 8 to 5, no breaks and gets 2 weeks off a year.
Compare this to the CEO who's a bit less intelligent but just was fortunate enough to be born in a rich and influential family. He had a higher education and got through it because of his dad's connections. He was appointed CEO in the company of one of his father's friends. He's at his job for about 10 hours a week, and in that time he has a panel of advisers practically make all of his decisions. He eventually fucks up because he doesn't have a clue what he's doing and is fired by the board of investors, he gets a couple of million dollars for leaving the company, after this, he just goes to a smaller company and continues to do the same.
I'm not saying most CEO jobs are easy, I'm saying that some CEO's aren't qualified and just got there through family connections and stuff.
Sadly enough, because of corruption, the same things happen in Communism and even to a greater extend.
I'm just saying, it's better to be a poor person in a Communist land, than a poor person in a Capitalist land. I'd rather be a poor person in Cuba than in the US.
Oh and btw, I don't want to live in a Communist nation, I'm too selfish and rich to make such a change. I'm just saying that considering different political, economical and sociological structures, Communism is the most 'fair' system. As long as it's not corrupted by those in power.
But I'll continue writing my rebuttal in a text file until I can completely consider your reply.
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Post by [lms]tomero on May 24, 2009 12:23:18 GMT -6
or u can just shut the fuck up and talk about something normal, like hating paris
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Post by Creeper on May 24, 2009 12:44:32 GMT -6
Besides if shec had read the passed posts he would have known we meant in THEORY communism is a good idea.
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Post by shecter on May 24, 2009 17:44:36 GMT -6
I understood your argument however I stand by my point. Paris also sucks because everyone there is gay.
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Post by [lms]mattPsycho on May 25, 2009 13:52:24 GMT -6
has anyone been to germany im thinking about going to Baden-Baden
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Post by shecter on May 25, 2009 19:24:38 GMT -6
I don't think I am allowed in Germany...
lol no I would go for the chocolate. Unless Tomero sends me some Belgian stuff =D
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Post by [lms]tomero on May 27, 2009 12:02:38 GMT -6
yea gimme ur adres ill send it to ya
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Post by [lms]mattPsycho on May 27, 2009 12:55:10 GMT -6
accually? fuckin send me some Peterborough ON 599 Maniece Ave.
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Post by shecter on May 27, 2009 16:12:49 GMT -6
909 South Cloverdale Ave. Los Angeles, California 90036. I want milk chocolate truffles with no fruit filling or nuts.
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Post by [lms]rieper on May 27, 2009 16:17:16 GMT -6
I'm gonne do some couch surfing this summer apparently. ^^
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